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« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2010, 10:34:53 »

DT, a defender of Islam? Now I've heard it all.

As to answering the question, what question are you reffering to exactly?



HH,you are the worst for avoiding ?s on here,as to answering the ?,I would say it is obviously clear to everyone else (well maybe).The ? is in the topic !

Is it RIGHT or WRONG,I have no doubt I will get another inconclusive or silly anamoly from you.

SP nice to see you are TRYING to be a lady this morning by so kindly removing my profanity.KEEP IT UP.
As for moderators,I think we have enough already.
 
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« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2010, 10:39:39 »



HH,you are the worst for avoiding ?s on here,as to answering the ?,I would say it is obviously clear to everyone else (well maybe).The ? is in the topic !

Is it RIGHT or WRONG,I have no doubt I will get another inconclusive or silly anamoly from you.

SP nice to see you are TRYING to be a lady this morning by so kindly removing my profanity.KEEP IT UP.
As for moderators,I think we have enough already.

Is what right of wrong?

The barbaric practice described in the OP?

Of course that's wrong, and I condemn it and all those invovled in it.

So too, according to the OP, do many Muslims.

So quite how this refelcts on Islam and all its followers is beyond me.
 
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I warned you, Islam offers nothing.
« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2010, 10:57:37 »

I think that this quote may be appropriate ...


For the totalitarian mind, adherence to state propaganda does not suffice: one must display proper enthusiasm while marching in the parade. – Noam Chomsky


I believe that I have been adjudged to be guilty of "not displaying the proper enthusiasm" for the hatred of islam.
 
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« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2010, 10:58:37 »

Is what right of wrong?

The barbaric practice described in the OP?

Of course that's wrong, and I condemn it and all those invovled in it.

So too, according to the OP, do many Muslims.

So quite how this refelcts on Islam and all its followers is beyond me.



It is not about circumcission,it is about women having some fun before marriage and before new hubby comes along ,tries to get it covered up,so to speak.Should the taxpayer have to pay for some cult followers traditions.
BTW my wife would like to have a little cosmetic plastic surgery doing.Would you agree,she should be able to have it done at tax payers expense ?
Surely it equates to the same principle ?
 
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« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2010, 11:04:20 »


It is not about circumcission,it is about women having some fun before marriage and before new hubby comes along ,tries to get it covered up,so to speak.Should the taxpayer have to pay for some cult followers traditions.

Not in my opinion no.

BTW my wife would like to have a little cosmetic plastic surgery doing.Would you agree,she should be able to have it done at tax payers expense ?

Again, imo, no.

Surely it equates to the same principle ?

Quite possibly, but I fail to see why you would make the point being as i don't agree with either.
 
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« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2010, 11:06:42 »

Not in my opinion no.

Again, imo, no.

Quite possibly, but I fail to see why you would make the point being as i don't agree with either.


GOOD,I have been trying to get your opinion on the matter for the last 3 posts.At last you answered a question,am going to give you a brownie point for that.
 
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« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2010, 11:08:50 »


GOOD,I have been trying to get your opinion on the matter for the last 3 posts.At last you answered a question,am going to give you a brownie point for that.

I wasn't avoiding any questions, the OP didn't ask any.
 
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« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2010, 11:09:35 »

I believe that I have been adjudged to be guilty of "not displaying the proper enthusiasm" for the hatred of islam.

Shame on you!
 
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« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2010, 11:55:49 »

116 between 2005 and 2009 and we do not know how many are Muslims.

I am getting the feeling anything which can be construed as negative performed by a Muslim is going to get into a newspaper.

Harry I thought you were a reader of Noam Chomsky?
« Last Edit: July 30, 2010, 12:03:48 by ILikeLiberty »  

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« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2010, 12:27:46 »

116 between 2005 and 2009 and we do not know how many are Muslims.

I am getting the feeling anything which can be construed as negative performed by a Muslim is going to get into a newspaper.

Harry I thought you were a reader of Noam Chomsky?


Would you wager a bet the majority are muslims or not ?
 
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« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2010, 14:18:18 »

How is this Islam's fault when Muslims are condemning this practice in the article the OP links to?
« Last Edit: July 30, 2010, 14:19:54 by Cymru »  

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« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2010, 15:10:59 »

Free enterprise and the private sector.

Simples.


With what? Well, with the same money that you currently give to the government, in the form of taxation. Only, less of it!

Indeed, and we can decide how its spent, unlike today where large weapons and defense contractors rake it in, using their lobbyists etc so that MPs and big biz are all happy, sod the rest of us. A great deal of public money is simply handed over to big companies and appears as profit to investors, an utter sham.


Harry.
 

I know what you're thinking."Did he vote LibLabCon or BNP"? Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself...
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« Reply #27 on: July 30, 2010, 15:22:07 »

Is what right of wrong?

The barbaric practice described in the OP?

Of course that's wrong, and I condemn it and all those invovled in it.

So too, according to the OP, do many Muslims.

So quite how this refelcts on Islam and all its followers is beyond me.

Why would something so elementary be beyond you? stubbornness perhaps?

The obvious point here is that our gullible acceptance of Islam as a growing and valid aspect of our new society, carries many risks, these risks are that the undesirable consequences of Islam here destined to increase in number and impact us all in varying ways.

So this is just another example of a negative consequence of encouraging Islam, if we actively made it difficult for Islam to establish itself here, then our society will be all the better off.

Any person who accepts Islam, who feels it is as legitimate as any other religion, who considers it benevolent and so on, is indirectly encouraging these negative issues too.

So congratulations to all the appeasers here, you are responsible for this female mutilation, abuse of women by Sharia, our confused NHS hygiene policy, our embarrassing stance of having police dogs wear booties, our passivity with respect to touching copies of the Koran when searching a house, the installation of third world squat toilets and so on, all of these things you support, else you would be opposed to their source, which is Islam.

My own position could be summed up as "I am not opposed to Islam, just opposed to the many negative things it burdens us all with".

Harry.
 
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« Reply #28 on: July 30, 2010, 15:27:30 »

116 between 2005 and 2009 and we do not know how many are Muslims.

I am getting the feeling anything which can be construed as negative performed by a Muslim is going to get into a newspaper.

Harry I thought you were a reader of Noam Chomsky?

I have a lot of Chomsky material and Pilger, and although I agree with a lot of what these writers say and I greatly respect their erudition, I feel that this issue, whether Islam's growth is good or bad for the British people, is outside any subject heading they write about.

They are both concerned with geopolitics and war and the abuse of the people by those in power, Pilger and Chomsky share this as their primary concern.

But neither of these men write about how Islam impacts the very same hapless people, so I cannot see any issue between my reading them and my stance on Islam.

Surely if these two are opposed to power abusing people, then Islam too must be seen in that light, because it has, does and is messing up people here in the UK.

Harry.
 
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« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2010, 15:27:34 »

No, I'm not suggesting that. Whatever gives you that idea?


AAM. You have it arse-about-face, IMO. It's not immigration which gives rise to taxation, but taxation which gives rise to immigration.


Every penny that you pay in tax is a penny's-worth of choice which is taken from you. In other words, it's a penny's-worth of liberty that you have lost.

Anyone who avoids paying tax is doing the right thing, in my book. You may as well supply ammo to the enemy. If we all did that, the Country would be much the better for it. Just think, no politicians or standing army. No repressive laws and para-military coppers. No overbearing councils. No EU, or aggressive warfare. The list is endless.


(sits back and waits for the outraged cries of, "but, taxation is good for you." and, "but, how can you buy a tank?")


We cant have it both ways , taxation is bad news , but forced as i am to pay it i will.

Then theres the NHS , fu'k it , i paid for it i will have it .

IF ON THE OTHER HAND YOU DONT PAY IN DONT USE THE NHS , SIMPLES !

Arse about face ? well it could be , but right now its the system we have , i pay in i take out.

If on the other hand you aint paying in............ok , still take out !! HOW THE FU@K does that work DT ?

Call me a pius bastad please , but im no hypacrit .
 

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