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David Turner
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it ain't dying i'm talking about.... it's livin!
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Fine by me.
Let people opt out of the NHS and attendant taxation.
But what about drinkers; and mountaineers; and scuba divers; and sailors; and pilots; and rugby players; and cyclists; and bikers; and diy fanatics; ?
BTW, the average smoker contributes far more to the NHS than he uses. Most treatment is end-of-life and is given in the final few months. Since the average worker pays around £4,200 per annum into the NHS, he buys an awful lot of treatment.
Then, the smoker contributes all that additional tax revenue from the purchase of his fags. What is the tax on fags? 60%?
That's about £26 per week for a 20-a-day man. So, an extra £1370 per annum.
So, our 20-a-day man on average earnings, pays out about £5,500 per annum into the "health kitty". |
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« Last Edit: July 05, 2010, 15:46:59 by David Turner »
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Old Git
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I say it as I see it
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Interesting
Interesting.
The Sky programme "Road Wars" has been following several pro-active police teams in and around Slough for quite a few seasons now. I've watched most of them, and never seen anything that even closely resembles what you describe.
Should the police come across immigrants living 30 or 40 to a house, I'm sure they would be keen to show it.
Funny I don't see 30 or 40 to one house on my daily rounds but then again I know nowt and see nowt, even our housing departments record is only 12 people in one 2 bedroom house, but they know nowt as well. |
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Rich
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I know what I know.
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Fine by me.
Let people opt out of the NHS and attendant taxation.
But what about drinkers; and mountaineers; and scuba divers; and sailors; and pilots; and rugby players; and cyclists; and bikers; and diy fanatics; ?
BTW, the average smoker contributes far more to the NHS than he uses. Most treatment is end-of-life and is given in the final few months. Since the average worker pays around £4,200 per annum into the NHS, he buys an awful lot of treatment.
Then, the smoker contributes all that additional tax revenue from the purchase of his fags. What is the tax on fags? 60%?
That's about £26 per week for a 20-a-day man. So, an extra £1370 per annum.
So, our 20-a-day man on average earnings, pays out about £5,500 per annum into the "health kitty".
Don't forget the NI contribution taken at the source of wages.(NI stands for national INSURANCE contributions) on average I pay £230 per month
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« Last Edit: July 27, 2010, 23:05:38 by Rich »
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I'm a rambler, I'm a gambler, I'm a long way from home,
and if you don't like me then leave me alone,
I eat when I'm hungry, I drink when I'm dry,
If the "moonshine" don't get me I'll live till I die.
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papasmurf
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So where's the cut off point for where we start taxing people's incomes? £10,000? £20,000? Never? 
At least £10000, but preferably nearer £12500 to keep inline with 40 hours work a week at the minimum wage. |
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« Last Edit: July 27, 2010, 23:16:35 by papasmurf »
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Cymru
Aristocratic Republican
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At least £10000, but preferably nearer £12500 to keep inline with 40 hours work a week at the minimum wage.
I've just done the calculations and you are near enough right.
That sounds fair enough to me. |
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« Last Edit: July 27, 2010, 23:57:10 by Cymru »
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johnofgwent
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Fine by me.
Let people opt out of the NHS and attendant taxation.
But what about drinkers; and mountaineers; and scuba divers; and sailors; and pilots; and rugby players; and cyclists; and bikers; and diy fanatics; ?
BTW, the average smoker contributes far more to the NHS than he uses. Most treatment is end-of-life and is given in the final few months. Since the average worker pays around £4,200 per annum into the NHS, he buys an awful lot of treatment.
Then, the smoker contributes all that additional tax revenue from the purchase of his fags. What is the tax on fags? 60%?
That's about £26 per week for a 20-a-day man. So, an extra £1370 per annum.
So, our 20-a-day man on average earnings, pays out about £5,500 per annum into the "health kitty".
Hang on a minute. A day or so ago you were hanging ME out to dry for being a man of "big government". NOW you seem to be wearing the boots you criticise me for wearing.
But one set of points I can set you straight on.
Scuba Divers. Speaking as one ....
...The lifeboat that MAY have to come out to haul in the most PREPARED of divers is funded entirely from VOLUNTARY CONTRIBUTIONS. That includes a fair old wad I used to chuck into their orange bucket BECAUSE I had no intention of ever needing them but one day i might and I would like them to have the diesel to come and fetch me.
...The helicopter that equally MAY have to come and haul me out of the deep shite is not there to haul me out of the shite it is there to rescue downed air force pilots and royal navy sailors they would have to be there anyway, paid for by taxes, and they need the sodding practice. Also, as I have said many times, if en route to you they are notified of a navy pilot down they will turn and leave you to drown and go and do their real job. If your instructor did not tell you that I will have them struck off. if you do not believe it when you are told it you are a fool.
...The people hat haul me out of the rip tide and drag me back onto the beach ... well actually I am one of the people who do the hauling, I've done it several times and I therefore consider I have several credits stacked up in the "help i'm *******g drowning" piggy bank should I need to make a withdrawal. I am in NO hurry to do so but I for one firmly work on the you grab my tank I'll grab yours ... school.
As for the deco chambers, well to be honest I am not sure who they are really for, but I know that when I am diving abroad, part of the cost of the dive, be it via permit, be it via ticket, or be it via compulsory insurance that must be bought and shown before you get wet IS a charge which goes towards the maintainance of the deco chamber. Knowing how many active participants in my sport there are, knowing how many boat operators uk wide there are, and knowing how many end up "in the pot" is a tiny fraction, I'm absolutely happy with a move that mimics the operation abroad whereby no-one gets wet without making a contribution to the "pot pot" |
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Richard Lionheart
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The truth is the truth. Tough.
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Theres a case here for making poverty a capital offence.................. |
It's my opinion and no, before you ask, I am not going to post "evidence" because there usually isn't any, or you can go and find it for yourself. Why should I do your research?
Remember, never trust a moslem - Muslims can lie for Allah ―Surah 5:89, Surah 2:225, Surah 16: 106.
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Oddball
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Theres a case here for making poverty a capital offence..................
One way of getting rid of poor folks, OR causing another Civil War! The French one got rid of a number of rich folks as well!
ps. Knock off the poor folks, and who will look after the rich folks? - Ah, I know, immigrants! |
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Kill my boss? Do I dare live out the American dream!
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Richard Lionheart
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The truth is the truth. Tough.
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One way of getting rid of poor folks, OR causing another Civil War! The French one got rid of a number of rich folks as well!
ps. Knock off the poor folks, and who will look after the rich folks? - Ah, I know, immigrants!
You could recycle them and turn thme into Soylent Green to feed the rest of the poor people, or dogs and cats. Ditto failed immigrants - theres about 12,000 tons of good recycleable meat going to waste there every year. |
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papasmurf
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Theres a case here for making poverty a capital offence..................
There is for people who rant on about scroungers if they ever become poor themselves. |
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